There's never a dull moment in Carl's interview with the one and only Gary Saunders. Gary had a long career as a general manager and exec for many Minor League Baseball teams as well as the University of Mississippi. But Gary is far from done. At 66, Gary is now a sound engineer for the Pittsburgh Pirates organization and popular radio personality with the very cool handle of "HoDad". Plus an array of interesting other part-time jobs he loves while experience a very unique (un)retirement.

Gary and his two brothers grew up in Virginia. His father was a real estate developer and his mother was a stay-at-home mom. As a teen he worked as a laborer for his father on construction sites and quickly learned that focusing on his studies would be a better path. Even in college at Virginia Tech, he knew he wanted a career in sports and dove into sportscasting for various college teams.

After college, Gary applied for a position with the St. Louis Cardinals, only to be discouraged by the sheer number of applicants and the low wages. But a man walked up to him, gave him his card and offered him a job as a Sales & Marketing Director of a minor league team, for about $200 per week. He jumped at the chance and it really kick-started his successful career in baseball. "Many things in life wouldn't have happened without the support of my wife, Eileen. She's my biggest fan," he tells us.

Gary ended his career in December 2020 and he and his wife moved to Florida. "Honestly, my plan was to lay on the beach, go out to lunch, swim in the pool....but after a year as a beach bum I felt very disconnected from real life. I felt like I had no purpose." Gary approached the Pirates minor league team about some sort of part-time job. They offered him a position managing the sound effects and music at the games for the team. "Oh man, it was my dream job!" he says. "I couldn't wait to sign up fast enough!"

When the baseball gig ended in the fall, he didn't want to go back to being a beach bum and decided to focus on getting a winter job too. You'll have to listen to the podcast to get all the details on Gary's job at a fitness resort, writing the "Home Plate Cookbook", jumping at an opportunity to become a radio host, as "HoDad" on the Longboat Luau show, and even a butler for a St. Regis hotel. "I've found it interesting and rewarding and I've met some really great people. All these different jobs and activities come with different tribes of people. They become like a second family. It has really enriched my life!"

Gary's (un)retirement observations:

• "I think I'm the poster child for staying busy in retirement. Target jobs or activities or volunteering that puts a smile on your face and make you feel better about your role in life."

• "I strongly urge people not to think about retirement as sitting on the beach all day. Because you will get tired of that and I know a lot of people think that sounds crazy, that "No way, I'll never get tired of that." But you will. You'll feel like you're no longer part of the real world. You're not engaged and you're not meeting people and you don't have a purpose for getting up and getting dressed every day."

• "It's important to find a thing or multiple things that make you happy and convert that in some way to a part-time job in retirement."​​​​​​​

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Diana Landau is the Content Wrangler for Pickleball Media. After 15 years in corporate marketing, in 2012 she pivoted to write and wrangle content for Niche Media's weekly blog. She now manages the "I Used to be Somebody" blog

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